Whatever happened with this situation? Are they still investigating? You mentioned other cases were found, but I haven't seen any updates about this since the first email they sent out in January. (I missed it at the time, just dug it up.) I'm playing in some ROCs this year (against you, actually), but I'm just now learning of this story. I know it's months later, but I'm a little pissed since I just found out.
think they had a third-party company do an audit, and they found the cheating happened in only 2 or 3 contests, didn't affect the outcomes. (Maybe that's oversimplifying, but something like that.) At least according to the audit, it wasn't widespread. And they apparently put extra safeguards in place.
Cool, thanks for the update. It's weird to think of this happening under Greg's watch. Greg is such a stand up guy, he must still be reeling from this. I thought Greg's response was kinda lame, talking about demons and shit, but obviously he was shaken up and emotional. Who doesn't have personal issues, ya know? Welcome to humanity. I know it's a different take from people who knew Darik, but for those of us who have spent much money at the NFFC (going on 17 years for me), I can't help but think Buchar is a scumbag. I can't imagine that's not the view of most all outsiders. Most importantly, though: I look forward to crushing you this year.
Ugh. Yeah. No words. I emailed Greg today, told him I appreciated him. I hardly think any NFFC veteran was too affected by this -- I mean in terms of whether they'll spend money with the company again.
Reading through the youtube comments there, someone makes a claim that the same user won the same tournament a few years ago. Even without that bit of info(if it's true), I feel like you'd have to be pretty gullible to think that this time was the first time. That's a pretty big coincidence to have caught it "the one and only time" with hard evidence like that. These bad actors who go back over a decade just woke up this past weekend and decided to do something this nefarious? My guess is they've been picking their spots for years, but who knows.
it does for me. I also knew Darik a bit, and I don't think he was scamming them over the long haul. More likely as Greg says he just did somethig really dumb.
Yea I'm just seeing some of it now in one of my dynasty FF discords. Not good. I agree with everything you said on your podcast though, I've listened to you and Greg for a long time since the XM days and he seems like as straight up a dude as there is, probably part of his issue is I'm sure he sees the best in people and misses the other stuff, but I have no concerns about his character or him fixing the problems as best he can.
Whatever happened with this situation? Are they still investigating? You mentioned other cases were found, but I haven't seen any updates about this since the first email they sent out in January. (I missed it at the time, just dug it up.) I'm playing in some ROCs this year (against you, actually), but I'm just now learning of this story. I know it's months later, but I'm a little pissed since I just found out.
think they had a third-party company do an audit, and they found the cheating happened in only 2 or 3 contests, didn't affect the outcomes. (Maybe that's oversimplifying, but something like that.) At least according to the audit, it wasn't widespread. And they apparently put extra safeguards in place.
Cool, thanks for the update. It's weird to think of this happening under Greg's watch. Greg is such a stand up guy, he must still be reeling from this. I thought Greg's response was kinda lame, talking about demons and shit, but obviously he was shaken up and emotional. Who doesn't have personal issues, ya know? Welcome to humanity. I know it's a different take from people who knew Darik, but for those of us who have spent much money at the NFFC (going on 17 years for me), I can't help but think Buchar is a scumbag. I can't imagine that's not the view of most all outsiders. Most importantly, though: I look forward to crushing you this year.
he looked at Darik like a son, I think, so that's why he explained it to himself that way. But what Darik did was as scummy as it gets. And good luck!
Ugh. Yeah. No words. I emailed Greg today, told him I appreciated him. I hardly think any NFFC veteran was too affected by this -- I mean in terms of whether they'll spend money with the company again.
Wow, jaw dropping.
Reading through the youtube comments there, someone makes a claim that the same user won the same tournament a few years ago. Even without that bit of info(if it's true), I feel like you'd have to be pretty gullible to think that this time was the first time. That's a pretty big coincidence to have caught it "the one and only time" with hard evidence like that. These bad actors who go back over a decade just woke up this past weekend and decided to do something this nefarious? My guess is they've been picking their spots for years, but who knows.
looks like not -- they went through it in detail here: https://nffcforums.shgn.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=19112
Does that cure any skepticism for you outside of this event?
it does for me. I also knew Darik a bit, and I don't think he was scamming them over the long haul. More likely as Greg says he just did somethig really dumb.
BTW -- they allegedly found another instance, so maybe there's more to it still.
Yea I'm just seeing some of it now in one of my dynasty FF discords. Not good. I agree with everything you said on your podcast though, I've listened to you and Greg for a long time since the XM days and he seems like as straight up a dude as there is, probably part of his issue is I'm sure he sees the best in people and misses the other stuff, but I have no concerns about his character or him fixing the problems as best he can.
yeah, almost certainly there would be other contests. You hope it goes back only so far, but they'll have to find out